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A Wing and a Prayer Advanced Rules and Modifications

A Wing and a Prayer Advanced Rules and Modifications v5.0

David Heath

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David Heath submitted a new resource:

A Wing and a Prayer Advanced Rules and Modifications - Bring Your Play to the Next Level

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Advanced Rules and Modifications

This game has great potential and we wanted to pull some more out of it, so the design itself shined even more. We spent weeks modifying and testing the changes. We played close to 100+ missions to tune these advanced rules and modifications, so they push the game towards more dangerous flights and more rewarding objectives. We have even made room for tactical decisions.

Have fun

Jan Horinek, June 2020

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Interesting. I've printed these and use them, they're mostly really great.

However the -3vp per extra bomber is rather ridiculous. On many missions, especially vs sub pens (-2 bombing), just getting Light damage is difficult, so adding two bombers would put you at 0 or -1 mission VP, so what's the point of doing the mission? Likewise if you add just one bomber but want to wait out the "Heavy Clouds" you rolled. That's -7vp from the get go, and you're extremely unlikely to earn that back on a difficult target. So I'm not seeing any real "tactical decision" to add bombers, because you're choosing from a chance to inflict Light damage vs 0 vp for doing the mission. Basically the only added tactical decision is waiting out the weather.
 

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Sometmes you have to go on a mission that is most likely lost. You can still collect some points on destroyed Interceptors though. If you could add an extra bomber for just -1 VP, that would be just too easy way to withstand flak and hit the target. That woudl be broken. You can always check the attack table and see if the extra bomber may pay back or not at all.
 

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As I much appreciate the effort to review these advanced rules I am disappointed by the fact the main rule and table have not been edited and updated accordingly. it is a real struggle looking back and forth with pages to check which one is which, I am really hoping that someone would integrate these 5.0 rules into the Living Rules Manual 2.2 as well as the Updated Player Aid Cards v2-2
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Hold on, LnL is going to release a 3.0 bundle that will have it all - rewritten, corrected, and updated rules, re-hauled, more accurate tabs, historically accurate Advanced Rules, new PnP tokens, ... i am working on it 24/7.
 

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wow thanks for the update! I am please to disregard everything above as they were right, this game needs to show all of its potential in gameplay!
 

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Hold on, LnL is going to release a 3.0 bundle that will have it all - rewritten, corrected, and updated rules, re-hauled, more accurate tabs, historically accurate Advanced Rules, new PnP tokens, ... i am working on it 24/7.
Good day Jan
any ET regarding the release of the new rule?
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yep I saw your progress, what's your thought if I may ask with rule 3.0, do you reckon more tuning and testing are required?
 

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thank you for your reply, keep it up with your good work, looking after to play soon with new rule!!
 

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Hello there
just curios how is the progress regarding the new rule, any ETA?
Thank you
 

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These rules are now retired, as the full 2.4. revision has been officially released today.
 

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First off thanks a bunch Jan!
So can I literally "trash" my current rule and print these 2.4 release?
 

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A Wing and a Prayer Advanced Rules and Modifications - Bring Your Play to the Next Level



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Hi David
because the game, in a matter of paper component only, has been deeply change, have you ever consider to replace the map with the new one? there would be a few minor change at the turn track as well as the escort track which help to simplify the amount of paper to lay on the desk. a new PDF would be enough for me so I can print accordingly
 
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