Searching for order

Discussion in 'World At War 85 Series' started by Gerry Wolf, Aug 16, 2014.

  1. Gerry Wolf

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    Hello,
    I have seen the list on BGG that shows all the games and expansions and what expansion goes with what game. I am looking for the order in which the games/scenarios should be played to represent the storyline of the World at War saga. I assume it starts with Eisenbach gap and ends (so far) with America Conquered. does the BGG list show the order?

    any help would be appreciated.

    Peace
     
  2. mwalbion

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    Now, I might have a few wrong.. but...

    Location -- Scenario Number -- Date -- Name -- Maps -- Side 1 -- Side 2
    Compendium 7 12-May-85 The Crimson Tide 1 Soviet USA
    Compendium 8 12-May-85 99 Red Balloons 1 Soviet USA
    Death of the 1st Panzer 1 14-May-85 Blind Sided 1 Soviet West German
    Eisenbach Gap 1 14-May-85 First Moves 1 Soviet USA
    Into The Breach 4 14-May-85 A Simple Task 2 East German USA
    Compendium 9 14-May-85 In The Beginning 1 Soviet West German
    Compendium 11 14-May-85 Yankee Hammer 1 Soviet USA
    Into The Breach 1 14-May-85 Out Of The Static 2 Soviet USA
    Compendium 10 14-May-85 Death From The Sky 1 Soviet USA
    Into The Breach 2 14-May-85 US Steel 2 Soviet USA
    Eisenbach Gap 6 14-May-85 Hell's Wings 1 Soviet USA
    Into The Breach 3 14-May-85 The Flood 4 Soviet USA
    Compendium 12 14-May-85 See You In Paris 1 Soviet NATO
    Death of the 1st Panzer 2 15-May-85 Speed Bumps 1 Soviet West German
    Into The Breach 9 15-May-85 Against A Steamroller 2 Soviet USA
    Compendium 1 15-May-85 Rough Wake-Up 1 Soviet West German
    Into The Breach 5 15-May-85 From Both Sides Of The Candle 2 East German / Polish West German
    Into The Breach 7 16-May-85 Pushing Off Balance 2 East German USA
    Operation Garbo 2 16-May-85 We Can Still Hurt Them 1 Soviet Swedon
    Operation Garbo 5 16-May-85 A General's War 1 Soviet Swedon
    Eisenbach Gap 2 17-May-85 The Defense Of Klappebruck 1 Soviet USA
    Compendium 16 17-May-85 Hide & Seek 1 Soviet NATO
    Into The Breach 8 17-May-85 Vampires In The Night 1 Soviet NATO
    Death of the 1st Panzer 3 17-May-85 Wittman's Ghost 1 Soviet West German
    Into The Breach 10 17-May-85 Momentum 3 Soviet NATO
    Compendium 15 17-May-85 Cruel Spring 1 Soviet West German
    Compendium 14 17-May-85 Clearing The Way 1 Soviet UK
    Operation Garbo 1 17-May-85 The Hammer Of Thor 1 Soviet Swedon
    Compendium 2 17-May-85 The Bridge At Passau 1 Soviet West German
    Paris Is Burning 1 18-May-85 Cracking The Nut 1 Soviet French
    Compendium 13 18-May-85 A Good Old Fashioned Ambush 1 Soviet USA
    Paris Is Burning 2 18-May-85 Turn About Is Fair Play 2 Soviet French
    Into The Breach 12 18-May-85 Exploitation: To Fight Another Day 4 East German USA
    Death of the 1st Panzer 4 18-May-85 Counter Punch 1 Soviet West German
    Eisenbach Gap 3 18-May-85 Rolling Hot 1 Soviet USA
    Operation Garbo 4 18-May-85 Into The Valley Of Death 1 Soviet Swedon
    Into The Breach 6 18-May-85 With Our Backs Against The Wall 4 Soviet USA
    Compendium 27 19-May-85 The Relief Of Tanenhause 2 Soviet NATO
    Operation Garbo 3 19-May-85 To Buy Us Some Time 1 Soviet Swedon
    Operation Garbo 6 19-May-85 Fight On Gotland 1 Soviet Swedon
    Eisenbach Gap 4 19-May-85 Maelstrom 1 Soviet USA
    Death of the 1st Panzer 5 19-May-85 Tank Country 1 Soviet NATO
    Battles Within Battles 10 20-May-85 BC1 - Escape From Eisenbach 1 Soviet USA
    Compendium 25 20-May-85 The Road To Armageddon 1 Syris Israel
    Into The Breach 11 20-May-85 Into The Breach 4 War Pac USA
    Battles Within Battles 1 21-May-85 Defenders Of The Fatherland 1 Soviet West German
    Battles Within Battles 2 21-May-85 Opening The Spigot 1 Soviet NATO
    Battles Within Battles 11 21-May-85 BC2 - On A Limb 1 Soviet USA
    Battles Within Battles 12 21-May-85 BC3 - Attack Of The Guards 1 Soviet USA
    Battles Within Battles 13 21-May-85 BC4 - The Other Foot 1 Soviet USA
    Battles Within Battles 14 21-May-85 A Friend In Need 1 Soviet NATO
    Death of the 1st Panzer 6 21-May-85 To The Death 1 Soviet NATO
    Compendium 3 21-May-85 Crossing The Danube 1 Soviet West German
    Compendium 4 21-May-85 Bridgehead 1 Soviet West German
    Gamers Guide 1 22-May-85 Clearing Hell's Highway 1 Soviet West German
    Blood and Bridges 2 22-May-85 First Contact 1 Soviet UK
    Compendium 17 22-May-85 Down By The River 2 Soviet USA
    Paris Is Burning 3 22-May-85 On The Wings Of Angels 1 Soviet French
    Battles Within Battles 3 22-May-85 Breaking The Camel's Back 1 Soviet UK
    Blood and Bridges 1 22-May-85 Separation 1 Soviet West German
    Compendium 19 22-May-85 And We Danced 1 Soviet West German
    Compendium 18 22-May-85 The Death Of The First Panzer Division 1 Soviet NATO
    Gamers Guide 2 23-May-85 Poor Bloody Infantry 1 Soviet NATO
    Blood and Bridges 3 23-May-85 Angels Of Death 1 Soviet USA
    Blood and Bridges 4 24-May-85 The Defense Of Anhausen 1 Soviet UK
    Blood and Bridges 5 24-May-85 Hold The Line 1 Soviet UK
    Compendium 5 24-May-85 Operational Maneuver Group 1 Soviet West German
    Compendium 20 24-May-85 Break On Through To The Other Side 1 Soviet NATO
    Blood and Bridges 6 25-May-85 Chieftains On The Warpath 1 Soviet UK
    Blood and Bridges 7 25-May-85 Challenging The Bear 1 Soviet UK
    Battles Within Battles 4 26-May-85 Widening The Breach 1 Soviet UK
    Battles Within Battles 5 26-May-85 Dancing In The Dark 1 Soviet UK
    Blood and Bridges 8 26-May-85 Calm Before The Storm 1 Soviet UK
    Blood and Bridges 9 26-May-85 Hold The Rhine 1 Soviet UK
    Compendium 21 27-May-85 Counterpunch 1 Soviet NATO
    Compendium 6 27-May-85 Armored Acorn 1 Soviet Canada
    Blood and Bridges 11 27-May-85 Beat Feet 1 Soviet NATO
    Blood and Bridges 10 27-May-85 Blood And Bridges 1 Soviet UK
    Blood and Bridges 12 28-May-85 A Kiss Goodbye 1 Soviet NATO
    The Untold Stories 2 29-May-85 Side Show 1 Soviet Dutch
    Battles Within Battles 6 29-May-85 One More Time, Boys 1 Soviet UK
    The Untold Stories 1 30-May-85 Cavalry Charge 1 Polish Dutch
    The Untold Stories 4 30-May-85 There Are No Innocents 2 Polish West German
    Battles Within Battles 7 30-May-85 For Dear Life 1 Soviet UK
    The Untold Stories 3 1-Jun-85 The Princess And The Dragon 2 East German Canada
    The Untold Stories 6 1-Jun-85 Easy As Pie 2 Soviet Belgium
    The Untold Stories 7 2-Jun-85 In A New York Minute 2 Soviet Belgium
    The Untold Stories 5 2-Jun-85 Counterattack Countered 1 East German Canada
    Compendium 22 2-Jun-85 A View To A Kill 1 Soviet West German
    The Untold Stories 8 3-Jun-85 Stepping Out 3 East German Canada
    Battles Within Battles 8 4-Jun-85 Last Man Standing 1 Soviet NATO
    The Untold Stories 9 4-Jun-85 Winning Is Everything 3 Polish Dutch
    The Untold Stories 10 5-Jun-85 A Change Of Heart 2 East German Belgium
    The Untold Stories 11 6-Jun-85 Throwback 2 Polish Dutch
    The Untold Stories 12 7-Jun-85 End Game 3 East German Polish
    Paris Is Burning 4 8-Jun-85 Mes Amis 1 USA French
    Paris Is Burning 6 9-Jun-85 They Are Steel, And They Are Doom 1 East German French
    Paris Is Burning 5 9-Jun-85 The Long Haul 3 Soviet NATO
    Paris Is Burning 7 11-Jun-85 The Beginning Of The End 2 Soviet French
    Paris Is Burning 8 11-Jun-85 The End 2 Soviet NATO
    Eisenbach Gap 5 17-Jun-85 Ships In The Night 1 Soviet USA
    Compendium 24 1-Jul-85 Barring The Door 1 Soviet USA
    Compendium 23 1-Jul-85 Going Home 1 West German USA
    Battles Within Battles 9 3-Jul-85 Food And Shelter 1 Soviet Special
    Compendium 26 11-Aug-85 Golan In The Mirror 1 Syria Israel
    America Conquered Bonus 1 25-Jul-85 Old Friends 1 Texan USA
    America Conquered Bonus 2 26-Jul-85 Defense In Depth 2 Texan USA
    America Conquered Bonus 3 29-Jul-85 A New Enemy 4 Nicaragua Texan / USA
    America Conquered Bonus 4 30-Jul-85 Together Again 3 Nicaragua Texan / USA
    America Conquered 1 30-Sep-85 An Unpleasant Surprise 1 Cuba USA
    America Conquered 2 30-Sep-85 Running 1 Cuba USA
    America Conquered 3 1-Oct-85 On The Road 2 Cuba USA
    America Conquered 4 2-Oct-85 Raid 1 Cuba USA
    America Conquered 5 3-Oct-85 By The Skin Of Their Teeth 1 Cuba USA
    America Conquered 6 4-Oct-85 Evil Unveiled 2 Cuba / Soviet USA
    America Conquered 7 5-Oct-85 Friends In Need 2 Cuba / Soviet USA
    America Conquered 8 5-Oct-85 An Unpleasant Surprise 2 2 Cuba / Soviet USA
    America Conquered 9 4-Oct-85 Probe 1 Mexico USA
    America Conquered 10 5-Oct-85 Contact 2 Mexico / Nicaragua USA
    America Conquered 11 6-Oct-85 If You Want Something Done 2 Nicaragua USA
    America Conquered 12 7-Oct-85 Counterattack 2 Nicaragua USA
    America Conquered 13 9-Oct-85 Last Gasp 1 Mexico / Nicaragua / Chile USA
     
  3. Scott Chisholm

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    I've been considering this series for a while, but as I'm more into naval warfare it's been low on my priority list. However, the Texan War of Independence struck a chord with me...

    I'm a compulsive collector with latent OCD tendencies. Reviewing the product pages, I've mapped the games and expansions and came up with the following listing of base games and applicable expansions:

    Eisenbach Gap Deluxe
    1. Battles within Battles​

    Blood and Bridges
    1. Operation Garbo
    2. Battles within Battles
    3. Counterattack​

    The Untold Stories
    1. Into the Breach
    a. Counterattack​
    2. Paris is Burning
    America Conquered
    1. The Texan War of Independence​

    So, it seems to me that for someone just getting into the series the logical order to purchase the base games and expansions would be:

    1. Eisenbach Gap Deluxe
    2. Blood and Bridges
    3. Battles within Battles
    4. Operation Garbo
    5. The Untold Stories
    6. Into the Breach
    7. Counterattack
    8. Paris is Burning
    9. America Conquered
    10. The Texan War of Independence​

    The Compendiums and Gamer's Guide appear to provide filler material, but are they game dependent? For instance, if I wanted to follow the order of mwalbion's post and start with Compendium 7, do I require a specific game, or would I use Eisenbach Gap Deluxe?
     
  4. mwalbion

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    1. Eisenbach Gap Deluxe
    2. Blood and Bridges
    3. Battles within Battles
    4. Operation Garbo
    5. The Untold Stories
    6. Into the Breach
    7. Counterattack
    8. Paris is Burning
    9. America Conquered
    10. The Texan War of Independence​

    The Compendiums and Gamer's Guide appear to provide filler material, but are they game dependent? For instance, if I wanted to follow the order of mwalbion's post and start with Compendium 7, do I require a specific game, or would I use Eisenbach Gap Deluxe?[/QUOTE]




    At the time I wrote that, only Compendium 1 was out, the numbers refer to the Compendium 1 scenario number.. I'd hold off on buying those (Comp 1 and 2) until I had The Untold Stories, if i was working down your list.

    Blood and Bridges opens up the Baltic Fury Line of Fire expansion too.
     
  5. Matt Lohse

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    Unfortunately, several of the core games are currently out of stock (we are working on that) so it does create a bit of a problem. The list over at BGG ( https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/52636/waw-scenario-guide ) will say what each scenario from the compendiums need, (basically EG and BnB for C1, lot more for C2).

    As for the order to purchase stuff (working within the limitations of what is in stock), you could try to go in a given order or also just start with what interests you topic/theme wise. Don't care about the Americans but love the BAOR... skip EG and get Blood and Bridges. Really want the French... then Paris is Burning and The Untold Stories.
     
  6. Scott Chisholm

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    Matt,

    As much as it insults my OCD, you may be right. As it was the Texan War of Independence that caught my eye, I might perhaps start with America Conquered. ;)

    I'll have to give this more thought....
     
  7. Scott Chisholm

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    Okay...

    I ordered America Conquered and the Texan War of Independence.

    The reviews on Board Game Geek have me a little apprehensive, but I'm hoping that the issues have been addressed over the past two years. We'll see how it goes. ;)
     

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